Alcohol and Monkeys

This is a Derfwad Manor replay...back when only Mrs. G's family and twelve other kind women read her blog...hi twelve women, thanks for sticking around!

Monday night Mrs. G. was watching Project Runway something educational on PBS when she bumped the remote and accidentally switched the channel to Wife Swap. One of the wives being swapped was a homeschooler who, once again, confirmed most Americans' misconceptions about those of us who choose to ejukate educate our kids outside of a traditional school setting: that we are banjo strumming, scripture quoting, manifesto writing misfits who sit our thirteen children at the kitchen table and teach them that dinosaurs didn't exist...not that there's anything wrong with that. Wife Swap's homeschooling mom lives with her first cousin husband and two children on a farm in Iowa. They make every effort to run a self sustaining farm not because they choose a life of volunteer simplicity or wish to leave a softer carbon footprint, but because, like so many of us, they are preparing for the Apocalypse. This family, admirably, raises their own livestock and vegetables and subsists solely on a raw food other words, they eat only raw food...including their MEAT. Mrs. G. is not talking about sushi, carpaccio or lightly seared tuna. These people eat chopped up chunks of raw chicken. They gnaw on raw turkey legs. On special occasions, they indulge in what they call "high meat" which is simply chunks of animal flesh that have been rotting aging in a jar for at least four days. They aren't worried about E coli or salmonella because they insist God wouldn't put any bacteria on this earth that was harmful to them. Mrs. G. is tolerant by nature, but this type of nutjob homeschooler is the bane of her existence. It makes her life more difficult in the following ways:

1) The Little League moms sit far away from Mrs. G. during baseball games because they don't want her to hear them talking about boozing it up over the weekend or their child's science project on evolution. And this is sad for Mrs. G., because she is a big fan of alcohol and monkeys.

2) Mrs. G's relatives feel the need to quiz her children on major holidays with scintillating questions like hey, pass the cranberry sauce, and can you tell me how many quarters there are in a dollar?

3) The women at Mrs. G's book club, which consists primarily of public school teachers, have a few glasses of wine and say stuff like have you ever noticed how homeschooling boys have such an unhealthy attachment to their mothers or I have this homeschooler in my 7th grade class and she reads at a 3rd grade level and wears a denim jumper and bedroom slippers every single day...and then they remember Mrs. G is a homeschooler and change the subject fast.

4) The cashier at Safeway, eying Mrs. G's children helping her bag groceries during the middle of a school day, assumes Mrs. G. is a fundamentalist and a Republican and while scanning Mrs. G's groceries, shares her interpretation of the miracle of the loaves and the fishes and Ronald Reagan.

The U.S. Census Bureau estimates that there are between 900,000 and 2,000,000 homeschoolers, and the number is growing at a brisk pace. Mrs. G. finds it exhausting to drop all the necessary conversational hints to prevent others from think she is a suburban hillbilly who makes her own kefir and eats raw meat. So, readers, here's the 411 on homeschooling mama, Mrs. G:

  • Her children are of average intelligence and don't play any musical instruments.

  • She is a card carrying feminist...the old school kind who is hung up on that tired old doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women.

  • Her children watch television, play video games and eat large quantities of processed food.

  • When she is not spinning her own wool and milling her own flour...not that there's anything wrong with that, she enjoys gardening, gin and historical documentaries The Sopranos

  • She and her husband chose to homeschool for very personal reasons that had nothing to do with religion, politics or any kind of aversion to public school. Mrs. G. has been teaching in one for several years.

  • She doesn't jump on bandwagons and is turned off by zealots of all stripes. Mrs. G. is absolutely sure about nothing.

And she prefers her salad raw and her meat cooked.

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Ha! Number one I win a prize? Do I?

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterhippyhappyhay

Raw chicken? flippin heck. Funny the fine line that exists between faith and, um, crazy.

Cheers Mrs G, heres to us non-stereotypical homeschoolers!

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterhippyhappyhay

Not only are not all homeschoolers NOT nutjobs, not all people from Iowa are as bonkers as the couple on TV. I'm from Iowa and I have always always always cooked my chicken before eating it. My sister ate some undercooked chicken (okay so it was from a very dodgy Mexican restaurant) and dang near died of food poisoning. I wonder if they have to sacrifice one of the children to a nice fat tape worm before they'll start cooking the meat again. Idiots!!

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterPeggy

ugh! "wife swap"...they have a Japanese version over here and i can vouch that it is just as stupid. of the worst episodes had an American man and his Japanese wife...THAT man was an ass...totally embarrassing as a fellow ex-pat!!
I don't jump on bandwagons either...I have been known though, to walk along with one for a while, just to see if i can get some free beer or tequila!!
My hat's off to you homeschooling mamas...i seriously don't have the probably wouldn't be pretty!! can i send my sons for a homestay someday...the youngest does a great monkey impression???

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterdkuroiwa

Straight up, Mrs. G. As a wise man once said in a film I used to watch as a youngster, "Nobody puts Baby in a corner." (Dirty Dancing, in case you didn't recongize).

Project Runway next season premiere - July 12. Digital premiere-watching party?

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterManager Mom

Remember that show from long, long ago, Newhart. On the show, all the local Vermonters were a tad slow. Stupid, really. And when I'd tell people I was from Vermont, they'd immediately think of that show. Ughhh.

My best friend home schools and she gets some of the same reactions you do. The assumptions people make!

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterTricia

(raising glass)

::: Cheers:::

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNancy

And don't forget folks asking why we're so normal. One told me that she thought all homeschoolers were either religious fanatics or hippies living in buses on the side of the road.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterdebra

"a big fan of alcohol and monkeys" ...I think I just snorted coffee!
I'm all about shorts, t-shirts and sneakers. The ultra-conservative establishment doesn't allow my personal dress code on their campus.
Raw meat?!? Eeeeewwwwww!! I can hardly bear to touch raw meat (which makes it difficult to cook some days!) so the thought of eating it? GROSS!!
I did feel a need to explain the presence of my 3rd grader in the grocery store ("consumer math") but I don't recall anyone making those assumptions about me - or at least, no one bothered to verbalize them within earshot. I did get the socialization concern voiced by my mother, which was funny because none of the teachers I knew at church saw that as an issue - probably because we socialized a lot with them! (And yes, I drank with some of them, so the opportunity to let private opinions slip did exist!) What I found most interesting was that people assumed if your kid didn't "fit" the public school mode, you should put him in private school instead. I often had to explain that 1)it wasn't what the kid needed at the time, and 2) one month's tuition in a private school = one year of our chosen curriculum.
I guess the song remains the same: many people believe that you have to have special training to teach your children.
The special training I crave is Mrs. G's Photoshop skillz!

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterkcinnova

Home schoolers are like hens teeth here in Australia. I wonder why that is?
I've only ever known one in this country.
I know for a fact she cooks her chickens, although I harbour a suspicion that she bites their heads off before hand.
I like monkeys - particularly ones that drink wine.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterStacey

Wow - I had never even considered that you might be living with your first cousin.

I am green with envy that you have homeschooled - and often wish I had.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterblackbird

This is exactly why I come to Derfwad Manor. You hit the nail right on the head Mrs. G! Raw meat....come on people! My hat's off to you, you cool homeschoolin mama!!!

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBeck

I so agree with you about the ridiculous assumptions people make about homeschoolers. I homeschooled my daughters for 5 years and they endured pop quizzes from everyone from relatives to their pediatrician. Most of the time on subjects and levels that I am quite sure publicly educated kids couldn't answer. I put them back in public school in high school where they maintained honors status and where my husband and I went to every conference just to hear the teachers tell us that they wished all their students were exactly like our girls. One even said if we wrote a book on parenting she would buy it and tell her friends about it. But I digress.:>) The girls both graduated with honors in spite of the fundamentalist christian home they were raised and partially educated in,(not that there's anything wrong with that). Sadly, preconcieved notions aren't limited to homeschoolers. (See hippyhappyhay, "fine line between faith and crazy")We cook our meat, dont marry our cousins and aren't waiting for the apocalypse.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKathleen Grace

That's horrid that TV chooses such extreme nutjobs to further our stereotypes. Glad I stuck with the trusty Food Network again last night:)

Mrs. G, your defense of home schooling is a defense of choice which should belong to every parent. Clearly exposing your kids to raw meat is unsafe, but exposing them to a different approach to learning is right! And anybody who'd give you bug eyes and back away because you home school is missing a great opportunity to meet a wonderful, intelligent, fascinating person.

On a final note, I've become good friends with a home schooling mama this past year, and while I was good at pushing aside my preconceptions, your blog posts made it even easier in this case.

Project Runway! I hear you Manager Mom. Time for some REAL television again!

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterstanding still

Although my middle-of-the-road self hates all the homeschooling stereotypes, I must say that some of my best friends are nut jobs. I like them. The diversity of the homeschooling population is something we should celebrate and advertise. Like, there are no nut jobs in the general population also?

There's nothing I hate more than the line, "Well, it's okay for you to homeschool; you're not like one of those crazies."

Hey, none of us homeschoolers is asking for anyone's permission. They are our kids, not yours. So y'all can just back off.

Is that too strong, mrs g? It's a pet peeve of mine. Feel free to delete.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSuburbanCorrespondent

You're welcome for sticking around. Unfortunately for you, you are stuck with me until the end of eternity. So there.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenteri am very mary

Yeah lets ditch the little fish with legs that say "Darwin" in the middle and come up with a good logo for "I'm a fan of alcohol and monkeys".

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJoVE

I read a blog last week in which the mom was saying that she avoids homeschoolers because she thinks they think she's a bad mom for using the public school system. I was like "dude! I get where you're coming from, but at least when people ask where your kid goes to school they don't feel the need to to follow your answer with a pop quiz!"

My 2 yo and 5yo are learning the bagpipes. How's that for homeschool kitsch?

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMemarie Lane

Great post - WTF about that wife swap show - that's horrible that they would even highlight that family. And I can't believe they would eat raw meat. I mean, I believe YOU, but that's just sick.

You are elevating my impression of homeschoolers - I only know a few and, unfortunately, they fit the stereotype - although they cook their meat.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMarketing Mama

I'm as boring, normal, average as the next suburban living, unschooling, Iowan and I used to watch Wife Swap before I saw how horribly they edited their show to make that family look so bizarre! Yes, they eat raw meat, that they themselves raise -- there's a" REL="nofollow">movement of raw food eaters I guess. I wouldn't do it but they're strong and healthy.

Yep, I know that family. They're much more normal than you would think from watching Wife Swap. They're lives were turned upside down and shaken violently by that program. The producers cut and edited and re-spliced to present the most sensational, jaw-dropping show they could muster all the while befriending and smiling away with the family and poor unsuspecting kids.

I don't share their religious beliefs nor their dietary beliefs but I know that they are good, caring, loving family. The kids are smart and social and active. The boy is level-headed and an entrepeneur who has managed to earn enough money to take flying lessons and purchase his own various flying machines. His sister trains horses and dreams of working with children and horses someday. The parents love their family deeply and care a lot about the environment, they're active politically and hope to run a tourist farm someday. They're respected citizens and neighbors in their community.

The damage done to the image of homeschoolers wasn't done by that family, it was inflicted by the Wife Swap show. I quit watching after that episode because I saw what a huge lie they were promoting. And now you've given me the opportunity to set the record a little straighter.

Oh, and I've eaten sushi with them too.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterzamozo

I love this blog and this particular post and what's funny is sometimes when I come here I feel like the outcast for NOT homeschooling. Yes, it's a choice we all make. And you never bash other people's choice. Just for some reason I feel guilty and selfish for not homeschooling, or at least doubt my choice. Even though I did consider it and knew (and still feel) that the best choice for my kids was public schools.
Also ironically, I have to defend my new choice of private school to my public school friends. I was always a very active member of the PTA, spoke regularly (the "appointed one") at board of ed meetings and was the advocate for special needs programs among our local schools. The "public school" moms say I abandoned them when times got tough. Um no, I looked at the high school choices and decided my son, in particular, needed something different. And he's thriving. So Um No I don't think homeschooling moms/families are all eating raw chickens (are you for real? C'mon you made that up!!!) and doing weird things. And I'm sorry you get such strange treatment from others. You just have my admiration, not my skepticism.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterThe Girl Next Door

I have to admit, I did not know a whole lot about home schoolers when I started hanging out around here. I have gone from thinking that choosing to home school was kind of odd, to thinking that it's one of the really coolest things and some days, I am quite tempted to become a home schooler myself!

I too am a fan of alcohol and monkeys.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterThe Other Laura


Okay so I have some misconceptions about homeschooling, but at the same time I have totally considered it and plan on doing some homeschooling in conjunction with the kids going to school. Do I still get to read your cblog or am I banned?

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKD-Pie

Your children's educations are your business and no one else's.

Mine aren't homeschooled, but I have given it serious consideration. Depending on how things go with my younger child in the next few years, I might still do it.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterjenontheedge

I SAW that Wifeswap. There was a malfunction with our cable system and suddenly the history channel was showing it. We quote that show still today. They also brushed their teeth with butter and salt and refused to clean the house because all dirt was good for you. My 10 year old thought this sounded like the path to nirvana until she saw them eating the "high meat." That crap was green.

The good news? I didn't even remember they were homeschoolers.

There is some movie, I think maybe
"Mean Girls" that starts out showing all the clicks in school and does the whole gun-lovin', dinosaur hatin', cousin kissin' thing about homeschoolers. It's hilarious.

Incidently, I know way too many of you to know you (educated, progressive, shoe-wearing) are the typical homeschooler. I love ya all. We have a lot of homeschoolers who send their kids to our hippie-dippie school for older grades. They are great kids, and the parent volunteers are a dream.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLisa V

I would totally homeschool my kids, if I had any. I don't have anything against public schools, and personally I loved the public schools I attended, but once I became an adult, I realized how much more I would have learned from my parents than from my teachers. My teachers taught me theory without application, and my parents taught me application and theory.

I would totally rock the homeschooling.

Mrs. G., I've been wondering how you both homeschool and teach in the public schools -- what do your kids do when you are teaching? Does Mr. G. pick up those days? Are you a homeschooling tag team?!

That's a fantastic idea -- I think you two should go on Amazing Race or American Gladiators (your choice, really) as the Homeschooling Tag Team.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterDeirdre

That's why I come back. I'm always hoping for more alcohol and monkeys.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMelanie

Personally, waiting for the day when we make powerful decisions in our lives AND celebrate/encourage others when they make different ones in their lives.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMamaMo

My sister-in-law homeschools her daughter, but her son goes to public school. (Unfortunately they do fit the fundamentalist profile, but they eat a LOT of processed food. She also likes to watch Wife Swap. I saw it once at her Mom's house and was pretty appalled. And it wasn't even as bad as the one you saw.) She only homeschools her daughter because the school was threatening to put her in special ed when all she needed was a tutor in reading. She was making straight As in math. I hope you're not in Ohio because I dont have nice things to say about the school system there. Of course, ours isn't better. We're considering homeschooling our kids for a myriad of reasons, not the least of which is that they're both brilliant like their father and he was completely bored and unchallenged most of his 12 years in school. (College changed that for him.) And one sixth grade teacher with 2 preschoolers says she's going to quit teaching and homeschool her children because the schools are so bad here. THIS FROM A TEACHER! Yikes.

And thanks to Zamozo for clarifying about that poor family from Iowa. One of the things people give us grief about is that we don't have commercial TV. We have a DVD player and the kids can watch movies. And hubby is a vegetarian (I eat meat, but definitely NOT raw.) So yeah, we're going to draw all kinds of remarks if we homeschool.

I found you through Motherscribe, who said I would be instantly addicted. She was right. And I have plenty of alcoholfor you when you come over, and my 2 kids love to act like monkeys.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJanet

Sadly, so sadly, I also saw that episode of Wife Swap.

Although the family of which you type didn't even come close to the New Orleans woman who was some random kind of Evangelical priestess. I believe she referred to herself as a warrior for Christ. That made for an interesting episode.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterThe Cheap Chick

I'm glad zomozo reads your blog AND knows the family in Iowa. It's good to know all is not as it seems. =)

I'm always trying to get my students to see beyond what's right in front of their eyes. And TV is never what it seems. It's all fantasy and fiction really. Sure, sure, there are educational programs, but it's still a "program." There's always a little bit of truth in everything, but everything is rarely full of the truth. (did that make any sense?)

And we must admit, it's human nature to notice the new, the different, the unique, and plenty of people are alarmed by those qualities. It's also human nature to flock together in groups and then judge all the other groups as somehow inferior. The more flak you get, the more original/honest/fearless you likely are. It's just the way of the world.

We all find our way in the end. =)

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNicole

Mrs. G can tell any story in a funny and informative way. And she's always right, even if she's sure of nothing. And I'm with your on the zealots of any kind!

By the way, probably due to the total inadequacy of our public school system here in one of the states of the southwestern desert, home-schooling is "in." And not just for people who eat raw meat. You know, I could understand a wood stove to cook the food, but NO stove?!

And as to the Little League games, my bet is that you're probably lucky because MOST OF THE TIME a group of moms like that is just like a Mom's Group (Bitch Fest--taken from a Mrs. G post.) But it's sad you miss the one good one that comes along every season.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterBrenda

I have noticed that your Photoshop skills are improving, Mrs. G. Gettin' better all the time. ;)

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermamatulip

How is it that I just found your blog? Best post I've read all day!

And raw chicken? Seriously? Shudder.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterDon Mills Diva

You know one of the most amazing things about publishing a post is that you NEVER know how readers are going to react. There is just so much good stuff going on in the comments today.

Kathleen Grace (so nice to see your lovely face this morning), thank for understanding my attempt to poke fun at the assumptions that we all make about each other. I am so relieved to hear that your daughters survived their loving, Christian upbringing-you know those damn Christians-and ease back into public school. You have such a stinging wit and I like it.

Suburban Correspondent-like you, I would be nothing without my rainbow flag of a homeschooling posse-despite all the stereotypes that persist in, let's see, every area of life, I know that my family's life has been so much richer because of all the crazy company we keep-deep inside and way outside the school system-neither group knows what to do with me because I'm friends with the other. From the get go, I have resisted getting shoved into my "homeschool" or "public school" slot-imagine...both sides can be equally rude and jugemental.

Zamozo, thanks for all the information about the actual about the truth behind the Wife Swap family. I am sorry to hear that the show messed up their lives-I'm so sorry that they didn't have a loud mouth homeschooling friend like myself to tell them TO NEVER GO ON WIFE SWAP IN HOPE OF BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY-it's a tacky, stupid show. No, on second thought, JUST NEVER GO ON WIFE SWAP.

Deirdre, I only teach eight classes a week in a public school (I am a part-time contract teacher which means I am paid an hourly wage, walk in, teach my class and can go home-I get no benefits and am not paid for prep time)-and I only started teaching six years ago. Mr. G. has always been the primary wage earner, so we have had a pretty traditional schedule. But I do know working couples who tagteam homeschooling/life and, of late, many single parents who are managing quite nicely to educate their kids at home. I know many, many families who have one kid in school and two at home or some variation on the blended theme.

Lisa V, your comment made me laugh so loudly. That darn History Channel!

I know from a couple of these comments and some emails that came in today that this post offended some people-the alcohol, the monkeys, the fish (I am so tired of the provocative fish)-and I'm OK with that. I'm not taking the bait. Please don't come to DERFWAD MANOR if you are looking for a crazy fundamentalist who damns everyone and everything straight to the fires of hell or a VW hippy vegan who teaches her children math through the primal thwumping of a drum...not that there's anything wrong with that. I think most of us fall somewhere in between.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMrs. G.

This right here: "Mrs. G. is absolutely sure about nothing." speaks VOLUMES about the essence of who you are, as well as the tolerance you bring to the table, despite the lack of it that others bring to yours. I deeply admire this quality.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAnn

I've only watched Wife Swap a couple of times, since (like you) I was busy watching The Sopranos. But I did see that show, and couldn't believe they ate raw meat. (shudder)

You're exactly right: People shouldn't go on Wife Swap. For all sorts of reasons.

And I would totally sit next to you at baseball games. I'll bring the liquor.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJennifer H

I am a public school mother, mainly because my kids both needed some special ed services that I did not feel qualified to provide. However, every year I reevaluate my kids as to where they are and what they need, and would not hesitate to change if they needed it. Its not (to me anyway) about the system, its about the individual child. Test scores of a particular district don't mean crap if your child is not doing well there. (El Jefe and I have had this conversation MANY TIMES.)

As for eating raw meat? Can't do it. Wife swap? Can't watch it. I'm with Managing Mom and Standing Still - bring on Tim Gunn! I miss him.

Also - S came in and asked whose blog I was reading. I said Mrs. G. and she said, "Isn't she the lady who is obsessed with Johnny Depp? I like her."

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLaRue

Ah yes, those stereotypes. I teach public school, but would homeschool my son if I could be home to do it. Not because I don't like public school--I happen to think the ones where I live are pretty good--but because who wouldn't do well with an individualized education?

I run into the single mom stereotypes. Ugh.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMcSwain

I can't watch the show, the commercials are bad enough. I cried to my family, "Please don't ever swap me!"

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersmalltownmom

I like the Wizard of Oz.

You can't categorize groups of people. You just can't. Stereotypes are usually wrong more than they're right...

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterTracey

If I didn't love my paid teaching job so much, I think home/unschooling would be the thing for us. It's kind of what we did during the years before my kids started kindergarten, and it's what we do during the summer.

The whole world is a gigantic learning opportunity - not just filling in workbooks (which I & my children do love unnaturally...) and reading but people-watching, museum-visiting, MAX-riding, map-charting, story-making, sprinkler-hopping, canvas-painting, et cetera ad infinitum forever & ever amen.

I feel blessed every day that you & your family are alive in this world, working your magic. Eventually the masses will grasp that "Wife Swap" et al do not represent anything reasonable.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterstephanie (bad mom)

Oh, I have heard tell of this legendary episode of wife swap. And what kind of premise for a show is wife swap? I remember when that phrase meant something different, and just the name of that show turns me off.

The rotting meat part of that particular episode really gets my biohemistry brain flipped out.

My sister was a homeschooler for many years off and on as they moved around and she made the decision whether to put them in school based on the quality of the schools at hand. Now her kids are back in public school. They are sweet, intelligent and curious kids who haven't had the joy of learning beaten down.

As more people homeschool, more people will come in contact with homeschoolers and slowly the stereotypes will fade. You're on the forefront of the homeschool crusade Mrs. G!

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterjanel

They always pick the most extreme opposites for wife swap. I don't think I've ever seen 2 average homes participate. Probably because they won't bring the crazy....

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterthe MomBabe

That Wife Swap woman seemed OK to me, just trying to keep the simple life, like in Old Times, like the Amish. But then I realized that the Amish aren't CRAZY. And they COOK their food. Like pies. Mmmmmmmm. Pie.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterNanny Goats In Panties


Come on, all homeschoolers ARE nutjobs, in their own special way. We'd have to be, to choose this lifestyle. Why else would we volunteer to put up with the ignorance and stupidity of society?

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterDoc

Since I'm late to the commenting party, I say here, here. Great post. I like Monkeys and Margaritas myself.

June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJan

you had me at monkeys...well, AND alocohol...

Sorry you have had to live so much of your life under a stereotype. Stereotypes are as dated as the word STEREO.


June 20, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAngie

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